Curse

HawkofStorms · Nov 11, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Spazzer

I wouldn't recommend going for Tyrian Guardian without Divert Hexes in the Charr missions. That's usually what people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon are missing.

Eh... most of the people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon aren't even complaining about areas with Charr. There are only 5 charr in all of Old Ascalon explorable (and they are rangers). Its those dang Udylites using heal area and running away from your melee characters (they kite all the time with their run speed boast, warriors can't do anything against them).

Blessed Winds · Nov 11, 2007, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Hexes? Why hexes?
If anything, this should be a thread about conditions.

Darkobra · Nov 11, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Skuld

Except dangerous hexes are largely used on weapons classes, making that useless.

Just do what all the pros do and recast mending.

Biostem · Nov 11, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

A good team can defeat a group of enemies fast enough that the hex removal skills you bring along will keep you hex-free, for the most part. I can certainly understand how it can be frustrating, but that's usually the case until you find a team that can counter them successfully.

HawkofStorms · Nov 11, 2007, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Blessed Winds

Hexes? Why hexes?
If anything, this should be a thread about conditions.

Eh.. but conditions are easier to handle (but yeah, conditions are kinda ignorable in PvE... except for places where blind is common (and places where it is like that one GW:EN dungeon has idiots demanding a nerf because its too hard)).

Crom The Pale · Nov 11, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Conditions and Hexes are dependant upon your overall party build.

Bleeding, Poison, Diseise...
Blurred Vission, Clumbsy, conjure phantasm, price of failure, frozen burst, ect...

Degen can account for a lot of damage if left unchecked, and if your party is weakened your vulnerable to a spike. Aslo if you leave some hexes long enough they can really hurt your entire party big time, Rising Bile as one example.

Over all if you have defensive party build with lots of healing then no, hexes and conditions are not a big deal.
If you have a party that is focused on damage and self healing then yes they will be a problem.

Avarre · Nov 11, 2007, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Hexes and hex removal are very dependent on area. You'll always want to only be pulling key hexes because hex removal cannot expect to ever be on the same level as hex application.

Having a Shatter Hex is always nice, but in heavy-hex areas where it matters an Expel is usually enough additional support.

You can't see me · Nov 11, 2007, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Hexes and hex removal are very dependent on area. You'll always want to only be pulling key hexes because hex removal cannot expect to ever be on the same level as hex application.

That's all that needs to be said to this OP.

DarkGanni · Nov 11, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Personally I like to take [skill]remove hex[/skill] Has low energy cost and shortest recharge in the hex removing range of spells.

Spazzer · Nov 11, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Eh... most of the people who complain about the 4-man areas in Ascalon aren't even complaining about areas with Charr. There are only 5 charr in all of Old Ascalon explorable (and they are rangers). Its those dang Udylites using heal area and running away from your melee characters (they kite all the time with their run speed boast, warriors can't do anything against them).

You know what "Guardian" means, right?

Effendi Westland · Nov 11, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

I run around most the eye of the north areas with 2 x expel hexes on my heroes and still end up manually ordering one to take blurred vision/visions of regret/vocal minority of me.

Lord Sojar · Nov 12, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Eh, just bring a Healer's Boon monk with Cure hex and dwayna's kiss. I welcome hexes for extra +50s everwhere.

Kha · Nov 12, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Eh, just bring a Healer's Boon monk with Cure hex and dwayna's kiss. I welcome hexes for extra +50s everwhere.

I've done that since GW came out. Unless it was something serious (Backfire on a monk for example), I use it to my advantage by still keeping it on. Lots of the monsters can just throw hexes on you like crazy - trying to remove them all is beyond pointless.

ensoriki · Nov 12, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Varesh Ossa, meet my friend Topic Creator.
Whats that Varesh? You think he wants to see some of your hex's?
*varesh whispers in my ear*
Varesh you dirty girl.... you don't wipe his team then ask him out >.>

No seriously, Bring hex removal for certain maps, 1 hero with remove hex is seriously good enough, but your going to find situations where you go

"Wheres the hex removal"
pug monk: "Why would I bring that!?"
"BEcause were dying!"

does that make sense? Tried to keep it umm interesting.

garethporlest18 · Nov 12, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Makes things more interesting in PvE when everyone is dying and there are hexes everywhere.

carbajac · Nov 12, 2007, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Is there a point? Yes, I'd say so, at least for myself. I don't like pink downward arrows on my precious party bar. In pve, at least, I am fine running a blight build just so I can keep that bar solid red.

blue.rellik · Nov 12, 2007, 07:13 AM // 07:13

[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill]
[skill]Insidious Parasite[/skill]
[skill]Faintheartedness[/skill]

Lord Natural · Nov 12, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54

The only point to hex removal in pve is if your removal is proactive (cure hex, shatter hex, hex eater vortex, etc.). Skills such as remove hex and veil offer no additional benefit, and more often than not the hex is reapplied almost instantly. 5 energy wasted.

Free Wind · Nov 12, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Natural

The only point to hex removal in pve is if your removal is proactive (cure hex, shatter hex, hex eater vortex, etc.). Skills such as remove hex and veil offer no additional benefit, and more often than not the hex is reapplied almost instantly. 5 energy wasted.

You gotta be joking. Veil IS the proactiveness - because you can pre-veil and remove 2-3 hexes when needed. Removing backfire when its already there and hurting yourself or preveiling yourself and removing it with no damage?

How can you remove [skill]Shame[/skill] from yourself?

How can you remove [skill]Mark of Subversion[/skill] from yourself?

Only Veil can do that

ensoriki · Nov 12, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Or another ally.

Seriously...VARESH OSSA >.>
Domain of Anguish.
Hard mode.
It doesn't hurt to weaken the pressure on you.